The price is a joke. This is a monthly subscription for mostly offline features. Make it a one time purchase and ill take the deal

The price is a joke. This is a monthly subscription for mostly offline features. Make it a one time purchase and ill take the deal.

Once you switch to “yearly”, your $15 a month becomes $7.50 a month.

ETA: While I understand that the price is not acceptable for everyone, how do you propose to fund the development ?
The pool of one-time buyers is finite, and eventually there is noone left. The subscription model provides the funding in longer term from same pool of people. This ain’t some PC game where you fund the release by making new stuff.

It costs money to develop software. And niche products have less people to spread the cost amongst.

Make it a one time purchase and ill take the deal.

Productivity = $90/year and Professional = $120/year. Well worth it IMHO. Are you going to take the deal? :wink:

they don’t even seem to be offering monthly subscriptions anymore. just yearly or 5 year plan. feels like such a scam.

“Opinions are my own” :upside_down_face:

Maybe you make your post a valueable contribution by sharing how you (are going to) use note taking software.

I find SN pricing a little too high but a note taking app and a VPN are different products, this is not a good comparison and asking for a single one off payment is ridiculous, development will stop if developers do not have a monthly recurrent income, I bet you would not trust a “lifetime” VPN company. Anyway, SN has a free account and you can use cheaper alternatives, of course not with the same features, but cheaper.

Yes i understand how development works. I sympathize with the dev team but also with my wallet. The expense of development does not change the fact that its an unreasonable price for what the product is at the end of the day.

It costs money to develop niche FOSS software like this, and servers aren’t free eith- oh wait, it stealth-switched to a non-FOSS license!

And now it’s back to a FOSS license only after F-Droid drops it and users start to notice… And the developer makes no promise he won’t stealth change the license in the future…

Yeah. No.

A subscription for a client? imho does not worth it.

Its a meme. If you would agree with what i’m saying you would find it valuable :slight_smile:

Late to the party, but that’s not entirely true. Lots of software has been sold as standalone copies without subscriptions. Obviously that comes with its own drawbacks though. If they do that, they’d have to sell new versions every couple/few years with updates. Microsoft Office used to do this, not sure if they still do.

The devs obviously can’t sell it once and then regular update it with new features. That’d be insane lol.

Don’t forget they have to support, development, infrastructure (expensive), developers families, accounting software and the list goes on…

Ah your funny, SN is fully OSS and you have no idea how to fund a company and support your employees. SN is a business at the end of the day with plenty of competition.

I don’t see it as just “a client”. It’s several clients (for various OS’s), all the additional features, all the various editors/note types, subscription sharing, file storage, Listed blogging platform, future-proof encrypted/private notes, and all the ongoing development which costs money.

There has to be some way of funding the updates and new features.

A one time payment is reasonable for something that doesn’t change, but it doesn’t work if you expect continuing security updates, new features, bug fixes, sync servers, etc.

I said FOSS, not OSS.

Mere “OSS”, and FOSS, are two very different things. If SN one day decided to start sharing your notes with advertisers, or some other gross violation of user trust, then users would need to band together and fork it and distribute a libre alternative…

But under a non-FOSS license they would be unable to ask for donations to help development of this new fork, giving it a potential disadvantage.

There is a reason F-Droid rejects non-FOSS applications, and why SN was temporarily kick off of it last week.

I know, I maintain a few popular oss packages myself, familiar with FOSS

Why bring up OSS when I was talking about FOSS?

I take back “F SN”; I was just mad that I got locked out of SN for nearly a week as a paying customer (professional tier) due to their last FOSS build being broken on Android 14.

I am still mad they aren’t promising they won’t pull this again, though.

I understand your original point, maybe I just misread it. sucks that you had a bad experience either way.