Some opinions regards recently many CN players got their account deleted

CN players putting up “HxD” in the PF is the equivalent to someone putting “Purple only” in the PF: If you’re going to scream ‘Look at me, I’m almost definitely using a third party tool/not meant to be here’ that loudly, there’s going to be very little sympathy.

Those players aren’t swarming the party finder telling all only act players, in another language to the native jp servers, and abusing the community believing they belong / deserve to change the community. You cannot twist this to make the aggressors the victims. No one will buy this.

And also was created a year ago, and has basically done nothing but exist since.

“the people who weren’t caught before shouldn’t be punished now” no. All deserved to be punished the same for the same lie. No one cares how long you got away with it for. It is always bad and should be punished. And if they choose to remove from the places that they are not allowed to exist due to your government, that is the way it should be. You are too scared to go against your government. Why should sqex have to do that for you.

你被封了吗?我说的“你们”是加引号的,麻烦看清楚,你没被封号,你是居住在国外的玩家,那我说的就和你没关系。请问东南亚有专门的东南亚服给东南亚玩家吗?没有那这在说什么?中国人有自己的服务器,中国的代理商和SQEX达成协议,那当然要阻止中国居民去其他服玩,难道没发现中国人上mogstation都要使用非法信道吗?所以请中国人好好的在中国玩,遵守国家法律。这些人用黑卡给SQEX造成损失没罚钱就算好的了,还退钱,好笑。最好给全部ban了,顺便请求中国网信办加强管制,防止中国玩家在外服接收到没有审查的信息,对社会主义中国梦造成威胁。

I think that’s a very bad analogy to make. Nether speaking Chinese nor being Chinese is a ToS violation and even if we’re only talking about Japan there are nearly a million living in Japan alone. The Chinese diaspora is pretty wide and there are reports of people actually living in Japan being caught in the ban wave. It is very important that Chinese people do not feel threatened for speaking in Chinese, and that SquareEnix both do not empower anti-Chinese players by using reporting as a detection tool, as that means people are only being investigated because they are speaking Chinese, and that’s insidious. I think bans are unnecessary but where bans occur it should be on an independent process not related to reporting, and it must have more evidence than Chinese speaker with Japanese address, but not all VPN addresses are obvious and even then you cannot identify the origin and lots of players use gaming VPNs to reduce ping from places like Australia. The whole thing is a mess.

you are right about CN players posting HXDonly are insulting Japanese players. I hate those players as well. As I mentioned above, they are deserved to be punished (it’s the same as you insulting people by parsing). But I am talking about the attitude of SE. Does partying in public and interrupting other citizens lead you to a death sentence? or sent this person to jail for a few months to tell you not to do so more suitable? you put on an ACT-related could lead to a 20 days ban. HXD is a recently appeared word and Many people (even Japanese ) join it. I know many people hate it but it is really unclear it is illegal or not. There is no notice or banning from SE to say that “this is bad, please stop interrupting local community” and just delete of account. I am not sympathetic with those CN players who make their voices loud in public and join the JP server for only a few months, I think most of them need to leave the data center. But the truth is, there are people who hold real names and addresses and have been deleted for no warning just by ever being in an HXD party, and they probably already spent years on the game.

For this part, I agree with you. but I am talking about Square Enix’s stands as a service provider. if their account should never exist, why the hell have people not been refunded. Why the hell do people are suggested to fill a non-exist address when they were registering? the way SE doing this is clearly don’t care about the rule when they could make money. When there is an issue, they all remember that there is a rule. this is no different from those games that could earn profit from RMT, so they let RMT guys pollute the gaming environment and let them go. when there is no profit, they kill those guys. and say that it is “justice”. yes it is, but I know they don’t care about justice, they care about money. If SE blocks CN or Southeast-Asia players from the beginning, I am totally okay with it. if CN players at least got some of the refunds it is also okay. SE just can not take people’s money and say “sorry we cannot provide services to you”.

不,但是你花钱去买了,即便被告知无法使用服务,也应该退还当月的月卡钱。拿非法购买当挡箭牌把钱吞了这是不符合商业道德的,无法提供商品的话交易就不存在,是吧?这个月卡是小钱,但如果你去买点贵重的东西,电脑,奢侈品,你付款了,人家告诉你你所在地区不支持,还把你钱吞了,这个问题就严重了对吧。月卡钱是小钱但是是原则问题。这点是针对正确付款的玩家说的。黑卡死就死吧。

Look at it like this. Say that there’s a couple of people that shoplift from a big store. They’re sneaky about it, and since it’s just a few people being stealthy, they’re not caught. But suddenly, more people start shoplifting. They start wearing, I dunno, identical masks, flashy matching colors. They grab stuff off the shelves, they brag about it, and they make a big show about it. It isn’t just some people quickly shoving things in their pocket that go under the radar. Now, these people are willingly drawing huge amounts of attention to themselves.

Is the store supposed to let them all go just because they didn’t catch them before?

FFXIV has millions upon millions of accounts. SE isn’t going to check every single account that gets registered. It’s assumed that you’re going to follow the TOS. But now that people who put in false information are flashing it around more than ever from what I’m reading, it’s putting a magnifying glass on it, and it’s caught their notice.

“interrupting the community” is not the reason for that ban… It’s the reason for the reports… That then cause SE to look at the accounts and realize that they lied and broke the terms of service…

If you choose to VPN and lie about who you are, fake an address and abuse the terms of service in a way they don’t detect when you make the purchase, YOU are responsible for what happens… They don’t owe you shit. If you break the terms, you break any sort of “contract” you seem to think you’re a part of.

You keep talking about a refund but you’re acting like they took the money and never let them access the game. What actually happened is people DID PLAY THE GAME they paid for, broke the terms, and then got banned. All games are able to ban you for abusing the terms of service, breaking community rules, or simply abusing regional requirements. You don’t deserve a refund for the gameplay you already had, ESPECIALLY when the reason for the ban is breaking the rules in game. And that’s not even accounting for being shit heads to the jp community. Who even me as an American hopes that square protects from this bullshit.

很遗憾的告诉你,没商业道德就没了,他们又不是日本居民违法购买不在中国销售的游戏还能去告他不成?小心习近平先给他送秦城监狱了。美国制裁华为,假如一个美国居民就是要通过非法手段买到了华为拿美国用,华为坏了难道他还要在美国找华为退款?

禁止比烂,美国该骂,se也该骂,不要一直拉低下限。华为坏了保修。用不了谷歌退款不行吗

您在这树什么稻草人,这跟美国烂不烂有什么关系,和谷歌有什么关系。自己通过非法渠道买了不在自己国家提供的服务或者产品,就做好服务随时被终止产品没有售后的的准备。我要是SQEX我就大发慈悲给这些虚假的玩家全部退款,给他们每人写一张支票,收款人北海道大阪府的肥肥肥,请他们收到后存入银行。

哈,这是我最后一次回复你了,稻草人是你立的,另外我从一开始一直在说的是强调的是填了正确信息和正确付款的人因为挂了hxd被封是不公平的,我这个帖子从一开始就说,扰乱环境该杀,虚假付款该杀。

填中国的地址填真的也没用,这个游戏就不卖给中国居民,中国居民只能通过非法渠道获取,所以麻烦全杀