PSA: Joe Rogan advertises ExpressVPN and why you should absolutely never use it under any circumstances

tl;dr

The company is owned by Kape Technologies, formerly Crossrider. Crossrider was big in the “ad injector” business, basically loading adware into browsers as a business model, which was then exploited with ads containing spyware, viruses, etc. The founders are also linked to an Israeli intelligence operation and state surveillance operations, which developed technology that was sold to UAE to spy on local dissidents and human rights’ activists. Crossrider rebranded to Kape Technologies to distance themselves from previous activities and began acquiring numerous VPN services and VPN review sites (ZenMate, ExpressVPN, Private Internet Access, Wizcase, VPNMentor), subsequently changing the “top reviewed VPNs” to the VPN services they acquired.

No one should be using VPNs that advertise across social media/podcast platforms. You are essentially paying money to hand your data to ad agencies, intelligence firms, etc. I have seen it marketed across the entire podcast industry within the last year and it’s incredible that none of the creators advertising it did a single bit of due diligence in what they were being paid to endorse.

If someone cares about their data being sold and such, only VPN choice you have are

proton, ivpn, mullvad

everything else, assume they are handling over data to govt or sell for profit.

i don’t really care so i just use random vpn time to time when i need it

Use protonvpn. They are great.

I use proton vpn it’s great

Yea dont use the ones advertised on a mainstream platform. Proton is really good tho

Joe will promote anything to the highest bidder.

I’ve been using PIA for just over 10yrs.

pretty much everything rogan advertises shouldn’t be bought

Most people are using VPN to bypass geoblocking and ExpressVPN has been the best at that from the half dozen I have tried.

mullvad is the only option

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I dunno I’ve been using PIA to torrent movies, games and music for years and years. I don’t think the FBI is coming after me.

Wait so I shouldn’t have listen to Joe when he sold us all those pills either?!?!?!

Links to Israeli intelligence… That explains the sponsorship on the Daily Wire :joy:

Tbf, ExpressVPNs whole thing is supposed to be speed, not security. If you want proper privacy, you probably want something like proton, idk. But if all you care about is downloading and streaming movies, express is probably ideal

I use double VPNs. Can’t be too safe.

Corporate Joe dont care so long as the Spotify cheques keep coming.

I have really limited which shows/episodes I watch now. JRE sold out.

Yeah but alpha brain definitely works.

NordVPN and Surfshark are cool though, right?

I need a VPN for work purposes where I need to trick the software into thinking that I am in fact not using a VPN. In my experience ExpressVPN has been the best in that regard because it has soooo many server options that eventually one of them works on a given day.

My wife just cancelled her cc because there was charges from Express VPN that she never signed up for… You are never really incognito.