Introducing Mozilla VPN: A VPN from the tech company you trust

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Introducing Mozilla VPN: A VPN from the tech company you trust.

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Am I right in understanding this as a rebranded Mullvad service?

In which case, why not go directly with Mullvad?

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But, I don’t trust Mozilla.

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Will it work on a chromebook?

Is there the ability to choose a non-US IP address?

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Curious if anybody has done any ipmagnet tests with Mozilla VPN like I have. I had local network access tunneling turned on and ran some magnet tests. My VPN AND local IP were showing. Once I turned off the local access network tunneling, the local IP vanished from the magnet test. Did I do something wrong in this test or is Mozilla local access tunneling not working as designed?

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Well, the clients are 100% open source and maintained by Mozilla. The servers are provided via a partnership with Mullvad.

But yes, as indicated elsewhere in this thread, it’s an opportunity to support Mozilla.

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In which case, why not go directly with Mullvad?

To support Mozilla. That’s the idea. You can of course go to Mullvad, but you can choose to go via Mozilla, so that you’ll support Mozilla.

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Evaluating this product for my own use…can you elaborate a little? Just in general or something specific?

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Then why are you here dear bot?

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Assuming the Mozilla service has the same servers as mullvad, yes. Pretty much every EU country and a bunch of Asian countries too.

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Here is a quick list in my mind. The fact that they do these things speaks about the mindset behind Mozilla, which is why I don’t trust them. That said, I don’t trust Google either, but I really don’t appreciate someone pretending to be privacy-focused while at the same time being just as nosy as the others.

  1. Forced telemetry, even with telemetry permissions denied. (See Telemetry Coverage or Windows 10 Task Scheduler Telemetry)

  2. Telemetry is opt-out.

  3. Firefox has the most telemetry to disable among browsers. (See A professor says Edge is the worst for privacy. Microsoft isn't happy | ZDNET)

  4. Firefox includes adware and spyware (Pocket/Leanplum).

  5. Firefox Android sends telemetry to advertisers by default. (Leanplum)

  6. Firefox attempts to enable encrypted DNS by default, directing all traffic to Cloudflare.

  7. Firefox attempts to count searches, adding searches to their telemetry stockpile.

  8. Firefox uses system addons to support its telemetry, which at one point I believe were supposed to be abandoned, but are not. Removing said addons causes Firefox to not update.

  9. Despite being “anonymized”, it has been shown that with only a few points of data, a user can be identified.

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I followed the link you provided for an article that would support your statement that “Firefox has the most telemetry to disable among browsers” and found nothing relevant to telemetry. You sound like you know what you’re talking about but it would be helpful to have solid references when calling into question Mozilla’s core commitments. Can you clarify? P.S. I’ve already opted out of sending information to Mozilla in the settings, but …

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most telemetry to disable among browsers

“most telemetry to disable among browsers” - ok here I just stopped reading and starting laughing. Stating that FF has more telemetry than proprietary browsers, like Chrome, is the most stupid thing I 've ever heard. Chrome has 15x more users, and instead of having a fingerprint with 1/15 of uniqueness it has a stronger one, according with eff’s testing page. Go on, you can make us laugh more.